When the season began, the New York Knicks were one of the most hyped-up teams in the league, especially after trading for Karl-Anthony Towns and Mikal Bridges.

Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart addressed the New York Knicks’ struggles against the top-flight NBA teams this season on the latest episode of their podcast, the Roommates Show. Just one day after ESPN’s Kendrick Perkins criticized the two Knick starters for being among the increasingly-large group of active NBA players with podcasts,

Brunson said the Knicks should be “embarrassed” and needs to “wake the hell up” if they expect to compete for a championship.